Do you like "green crap"?

David Cameron is reported to have recently said we should “get rid of all the green crap”.

Well Liberal Democrats like “green crap”. In fact, we like it so much we are creating 200,000 new green jobs.


Do you like green crap? Tell us why...

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I like "green crap" because...

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  • @Huwniverse tweeted link to this page. 2014-04-24 21:14:34 +0100
  • Huw James
    signed 2014-04-24 21:14:15 +0100
    We have reached peak oil, Oil causes wars.

    We have reached peak gas, and the North Sea gas is quickly running out, it’s replacement, from Gazprom, isn’t looking that great at the moment…

    Coal is dirty, and when not mined locally, often is mined using the exploitation of foreign workers.

    Climate change is already happening, and only ‘green crap’ mitigates the affects of it happening further. “Green Crap” positively changes my future, and that of the generations after mine, to not use it is selfish.

    ‘Green crap’ Protects our environment, and secures a better future and world.

    Sure perhaps it can increase costs of energy in short term. But it’s a necessary cost.
  • Jean Etridge
    signed 2014-02-09 14:53:09 +0000
    The EU-US Trade Agreement which includes ISDS will put in jeopardy the green jobs.
  • David Lee
    signed 2014-01-31 13:59:51 +0000
    Because I am green, but as a Lib Dem supported I don’t think Lib Dem policies live up to the rhetoric.


    Oppose dredging as a panacea for flood relief (don’t let the science ignorant get away with it).

    Oppose the Badger cull (don’t let the science ignorant get away with it).

    Oppose HST2 (don’t let conservative supporters get public money as they will) and publish all reports.

    Oppose wholesale coverage of our coastal waters and western hills with wind turbines. (there are better solutions).

    Not impressed with the effort so far on opposing the Tories on the really BIG green issues.
  • maria marsden
    signed 2014-01-13 11:54:51 +0000
    It improves the environment now and for the future allowing a healthier life and preventing long term damage and climate change
  • Martin Dinoff
    signed 2014-01-12 13:25:20 +0000
    It creating jobs throughout the North West
  • Chris Gunson
    signed 2014-01-10 12:15:52 +0000
    We need to convince the decision makers that a positive response to mitigating the effects of climate change can result in a better future. There is plenty of evidence now – we do not need to go back to the dark ages if the right decisions are taken. Energy conservation, renewables to replace carbon based sources, green jobs, local food production, better public transport etc etc etc.!
  • Jean Cousens
    signed 2014-01-08 23:37:46 +0000
    If a creature has the power to protect its habitat, that is about the wisest and most powerful thing it can do for its future wellbeing and security; therefore protecting our environment – globally and locally – should be our top priority.

    With ref to some earlier comments from ‘the opposition’ on this webpage, in my view: windfarms look beautiful on the landscape and are a wonderful use of technology to harness natural energy. Why is it that the noisy protesters against windfarms seem to be exactly the same people who are unlikely to protest about: noisy and polluting cars on country lanes, nuclear power stations, fracking, multinational mining companies degrading environments and bullying indigenous people’s off their lands , insidious oil industry funding of climate change-denying and oil tanker pollution of our seas……..given all the things that are going on in our world that are deadly, dangerous, evil, brutal, injust, destructive of bio-diversity and polluting, why, oh, why, do some people have to vent all their (probably right-wing media-induced) ‘fury’ on wind farms? Watch the floodwaters rise around you and think about it….
  • Rod Macrae
    signed 2014-01-07 10:55:26 +0000
    I’ve been to the Arctic and seen how the ice is rapidly melting; I have seen the destruction of the rainforests in the Amazon reducing our planet’s lung capacity; I have worked with scientists concerned about the reduced effectiveness of plankton to convert CO2. And I have experienced the increased frequency and intensity of storms here in the UK. Then you look at your children and wonder what on earth are we doing pretending we can manage this without a serious drive to reverse our dependence on carbon fuels. We need visionary thinking to define the direction and we need smart political leadership to create of a low carbon economy.
  • Juliet Merchant
    signed 2014-01-06 11:19:17 +0000
    The reason I like “green crap” is simple. We live on a green planet which we are in danger of trashing.

    I want to be proud of the World we hand on to our children and grandchildren like other Lib Dems. For me it must be a living vibrant World with wild nature still a living part of it. I would not be happy to think of our one species taking over the whole planet just to support itself. It would be an intensely dull place primarily. I see edging out other species pretty much on a par with murder in our own. Of all species, I trust humans and especially many of the large commercial organisations the LEAST in terms of managing the environment given our more recent track record.

    We can and must learn from the natural world itself how it works to manage its environments in harmony with all creatures and plants within each one. We are nothing without our amazingly rich surroundings of Flora and Fauna and cannot afford to continue to attack them on the current scale. We are also capable now of limiting our own populations and if we do not reduce them overall (voluntarily) we will finish with wiping ourselves out anyway by accelerating climate change and generally devastating the wild world, by continuing to oust the very organisms which can save us.

    We must let the wild world continue to care for itself and teach us how we can care for our parts of it without losing equilibrium. We have to “rein-back” climate change.

    On the smallest scale, each person in developed nations as elsewhere can make the best use of any outdoor area they have and encourage wildlife there. Even just a windowsill can be used to grow things. We have to “think green” so we can help preserve the countryside and town environments around us, guide policies and Laws in the right direction in every way possible and press bigger organisations to follow that lead!

    A healthy planet will be a place that rewards us with economic success as it used to in the past.

    I think that international green co-operation, which is vital, will only come about with constant continued vocal support from EVERYONE who cares. Institutions as such are soulless and WE/ their employees HAVE to continually guide them in the right directions. This is also why it is hard for political parties to convey SUCH emotionally charged policies as their green credentials accurately because they are institutions themselves and thus why their politicians have to convince us personally and be answerable to their electorates ( Thank you so much Mr Clegg for your lead here! ) This is because critics can always claim that the “institution” of whichever party “has no green policies”. These policies are moral, human matters (rather more than many other political issues) which have to be translated and very often rapidly re-translated “on-the-fly” into the “right” policies in such things as energy and best farming practice planning as there is such a vast amount of new and ongoing environmental research worldwide. The challenge must be for larger organisations, which can be inherently slow to adapt, to keep up with the rate of change and help save us and our wonderful blue-green planet!
  • Angela Robinson
    signed 2014-01-04 01:04:49 +0000
    ……because the world is not part of God’s ‘planned obsolescence’. We cannot be ‘saved’ without our world! It and we are too intimately bound up together in the bundle of life, too mutually dependent. for us to shrug it off as, basically, nothing to do with US……!
  • Florence Lavit
    signed 2014-01-01 17:28:35 +0000
    green issues really matters to me I would like to see adverts on the telly like in the 70’s in France to remind us not to waste energy. II would like energy tariffs to be high to encourage employers to make their staff switch off their PC’s once their ending their shifts and the last person to switch off lights and printers. So many people don’t care as they don’t pay the bill. I would like to see measures to help everyone grow a green conscience or at least some awareness. I would like all plastic manufacturers [ including food packaging] to ensure their plastics are recyclable and streamlined to avoid unnecessary bulky waste . Also I wish the recycling triangle logo was more clearly visible and that when there is a pot/ bottle + a lid , the lid also clearly carried the logo.

    I’ve always been dead agianst nuclear energy but apparently if different fuels were used [ sorry I don’t really know enough about it to be able to explain this eloquently] then the all process would not

    produce radiactive waste. If this were possible I would be in favour.

    I want a world when countries don’t seek growth for the sake of growth. Why do we need to grow constantly sometimes less is more and quality is better than quantity, Why don’t be go back to glass bottles and bring back our empties to the shops so that they can be reused rather than melted an remoulded – hence wasting a lot of energy.
  • John Howard
    signed 2014-01-01 01:09:43 +0000
    Because wind farms industrialise otherwise unspoiled landscapes and through subsidies make fat cats rich.
  • David Bentley
    signed 2013-12-31 15:56:59 +0000
    Improves energy security and can lead to carbon emission reduction.
  • Diane Rotherham
    signed 2013-12-31 11:21:15 +0000
    because I want a better world for my grandchildren
  • Robert Lindsay-Smith
    signed 2013-12-31 00:06:33 +0000
    Industrialisation has made great improvements to living standards in most countries, but there can be and have been bad effects too. Until recently these have been mostly ignored or dismissed, with the exception of such pollution as was obvious. We need to address all of these problems now, all the unintended consequences of our actions. These include pollution, shortage of natural resources, the destruction of green spaces, ill-health caused by working conditions, and the emission of greenhouse gases. It’s urgent.

    Environmental degradation was too high a price to pay for unchecked industrialisation in the UK in the 19th century. The whole world is facing a similar scenario now.
  • Niamh O'Connell
    signed 2013-12-30 11:56:40 +0000
    Developing sustainable sources of energy and minimising the use of irreplaceable fossil fuels through ‘green crap’ is essential if this country is to enjoy the benefits of modern technology far into the future. The trouble with Labour and the Conservatives is that they are only thinking as far as the next election. The Lib Dems need to be braver than that and start leading cross party support for long term projects that can’t be shelved by the next party of power to save a few quid.

    David Cameron tried to brand the conservatives as green to win a few votes – not because he ever believed in creating long term change. Westminster politicians are seen by the average voter as wealthy individuals with vested interests in maintaining the status quo, including not upsetting the energy companies, land developers etc. People are bright enough to understand that sometimes there will not be financial benefits to long term projects for years, even decades. They will support us if we have the courage to break away from the profit is all model of development.

    At the moment nobody, except those with vast sums to invest, are making any real returns on their savings. People do not trust the banks, but they do trust things like national savings and investments, premium bonds etc. If people knew that their savings were guaranteed and that they would get a base rate return on them, the majority would be happy – even proud – to invest in a fund that developed real sustainable projects and infrastructure that they could see benefitting their communities and the wider country for years to come.

    I don’t care that the banks would see this as not competitive. If they want to compete, let them stop paying morally offensive bonuses and bring back ratios of pay between their highest and lowest employees that make equitable sense. Any bank could reduce their profits and invest in green industry and technology, but they choose not to. Give the British people the chance to put their money into building a decent future for themselves and their families and I think you would find that they are not as greedy as policy makers believe.
  • Martin Dominic
    signed 2013-12-29 17:26:52 +0000
    Getting back to basics, planet Earth is the only home we all have. Unfortunately we have to share it with a small but powerful elite who, for centuries, have assumed they have a superior claim to its finite resources and a right to exploit them for their personal benefit. There is a growing realisation that we can all enjoy the benefits of science and technology if we are prepared to act co-operatively and make the best use of our knowledge. Climate change is beginning to impact on us all and the past two months can hardly be ignored, even by the most bigoted climate denier. The average temperature has only risen 0.8degrees C so far, it does not take much imagination to envision the effects of 4degrees C rise. A slight change in our political agenda will only delay the inevitable catastrophe that is underway. What is required is a radical rethink about how the world economy is managed. The hubris displayed by world leaders, both political and business, over the past 30 years has been breath-taking, and we are only now beginning to realise the extent to which they have over-extended the capacity of the planet,s life support systems. The comment about “Green Crap” merely proves the point.
  • Jasper Selwyn
    signed 2013-12-27 17:15:50 +0000
    Even if there is a 1% chance that the present damage to the climate and the environment is caused by man-made pollution, surely we should do something about it? And by the way, fossil fuels will run out before too long. Let’s look ahead, and save the world for our grandchildren.
  • Terence William Hart
    signed 2013-12-27 15:00:14 +0000
    The environment is a basic resource upon which we depend for our health and happiness. To put it bluntly if we mess up the environment everyone is fucked up.
  • Deborah Taylor
    signed 2013-12-23 19:17:09 +0000
    We do not own this planet. We need to be stewards for each successive generation handing it on in the best way we can. If we can get more people in warm homes, more industries using renewable energy and enable more people to have sustainable jobs delivering these then everyone wins.
  • Huw Jones
    signed 2013-12-23 18:01:18 +0000
    I thought that this Conservative government was supposed to be the “greenest in history”. That is true and proper Green Crap. Conservative energy policy is an absolute mess. All they needed to do was listen to the Lib Dems and hold course on fairly basic capital programmes – feed in tariffs, wind farms, insulation but instead all we get is a string of stuff that works the other way on the environment and carbon. This “Green Crap” is important, ultimately we will have to deal with it so I applaud the Lib Dems for showing leadership on this issue and not shunting environmental issues to the side like the other parties. The UK can be a market leader in sustainability and green technology if its leaders (and people) have the courage and vision to hold fast and invest in R&D, infrastructure and green policy. Yes, this will probably offend a few vested interests but a proper strategy will secure energy supplies and create jobs for years.
  • Paul Boulton
    signed 2013-12-23 16:26:49 +0000
    It is better to generate power on our own roof tops free from the sun than to be buying expensive oil and gas from overseas
  • Cosmo Lupton
    signed 2013-12-23 14:29:55 +0000
    I like “green crap” because it helps prevent floods and droughts caused by global warming and does not lead to events such as oil spills and the pollution of air and water caused by fracking. Because of these things food is more available and food prices lower, less of our water is polluted, less species damaged and our air is more breathable and not filled with smog.
  • colin murfin
    signed 2013-12-23 11:39:43 +0000
    I believe in saving the planet, but not at the cost of UK jobs, the Tories are partially right.

    The tax system is not fit for purpose, as it descriminates against UK manufacturers
  • Susan Yvonne Giordano
    signed 2013-12-23 09:14:27 +0000
    The evidence from years of not living sustainably is beginning to show, and even cynics must surely now start to think again. Planting more trees and banning plastic bags are just a start – we must do far more to develop RE – for example make solar panels compulsory on all new builds as part of the roof structure. We also need to reduce fossil fuel extraction and definitely ban fracking altogether.
  • Stephen Rutherford
    signed 2013-12-22 15:33:03 +0000
    Because it’s essential to both combat climate change and to conserve fossil fuels. I’m proud the Lib-Dems are pushing wind energy and want to see even more of it, plus much more hydro and tidal energy. I also want to see real investment in energy storage, because this is the key to a truly efficient, green, system.
  • Elizabeth Whitehead
    signed 2013-12-22 14:59:21 +0000
    We all depend on the Earth so, if we look after the Earth, we are looking after our future.
  • Vanessa Elphick
    signed 2013-12-22 10:30:01 +0000
    This government originally purported to be the greenest government ever. That is a load of crap!

    They are the worst government ever. The environment is where we live. If we don’t protect it there is nowhere else to go. Animals and birds are vanishing before our eyes and the government is doing nothing to stop it. Indeed they are making things worse with their policies – fracking, throwing out the planning regulations, planning nuclear power stations etc. Well we are fighting back with Polly Higgins’s plan to make ecocide a crime. Tell everyone to vote for the law at
  • Jean Fooks
    signed 2013-12-22 10:07:25 +0000
    For the sake of the planet, our children and grandchildren we need to do all we can to reduce carbon emissions and protect biodiversity. Protecting the environment, literally preserving green spaces and planting trees, is good for our mental health as well as for the planet.

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