Do you like "green crap"?

David Cameron is reported to have recently said we should “get rid of all the green crap”.

Well Liberal Democrats like “green crap”. In fact, we like it so much we are creating 200,000 new green jobs.


Do you like green crap? Tell us why...

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I like "green crap" because...

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  • signed 2013-12-19 23:33:23 +0000
    I am green because the true threat to our precious planet and our grandchildren is not immigration or economic problems but climate change, the irresponsible raping of the planet for fossil fuels, diamonds, aluminium, oil and gas etc etc, and the pollution of the water supply. I now hear that the UK has put itself forward to be a hub for those wishing to exploit the Arctic. If the Liberal Democrats allow this to happen it will mean you are not green but yellow. I will not vote for you in the next election – which means I probably will not be able to vote as I live in a Conservative county where the Lib Dems are the only possible threat to their power.

    I heard today that the Environment Agency has to cut a further 1600 jobs – this means that there will be even less resource behind tackling pollution, flooding and advising on climate change and waste. Great priorities this Coalition has.
  • signed 2013-12-19 23:22:29 +0000
    Unlike many politicians, who are only looking a few years ahead to the next election, building a lasting legacy requires a long-term view. Investing in green energy makes sense in so many ways, resources are not depleted and will not run out, prices will not fluctuate for wind, tidal or solar energy (as they will for oil, gas, shale, nuclear).

    But most of all, our environment cannot stand up to another century of the kind of degradation that has taken place since the industrial revolution. How many more diseases do we have to deal with today thanks to air and water pollution? How many more mining accidents or oil spills need to occur?

    At every level, green energy makes sense!!!
  • signed 2013-12-19 23:17:09 +0000
    Approaching a damaged nuclear plant in Japan is dangerous for humans, but unmanned drones with radiation detectors are being developed in Britain to help with that problem and have been publicised. The wall that was supposed to protect the nuclear reactor in Japan was inadequate against the tsunami, which looks like a mistake. Others decisions to save money taken by the Japanese power company are very worrying, because the same financial and economic pressures apply everywhere.

    Insulating people’s homes is not ‘green crap’ it is common sense, it saves fuel and therefore money, it helps to keep the occupants warm, it saves lives. Such a program should not be cut. Reducing consumption of fuel is as important as increasing production of fuel. The Green Party also argues this, but has only one MP out of 650. All levels of government in the UK must act on this. We do not need so many Trident submarines. Nick Harvey MP said at Glasgow conference in 2013 that a study had been done and that there is no-one out there who has both the means and the intention to attack us.
  • signed 2013-12-19 23:15:18 +0000
    It’s a global problem. UKs contribution is tiny compared to, say, China. Some green initiatives are sound, others are crap. I burn a litre of petrol to go to the supermarket but the green focus is on the free plastic bag. I like “green” but I don’t like the “green crap” and there’s a lot of it about.

    Politicians like to make out there are clear cut good/bad choices. The reality is far more complex, there’s a spectrum, the bad choices have some postive aspects and the good options invariably come with a downside. We need an analogue of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs but rather than for the individual, for society and the state. Politicians might do well to focus on ensuring the wide base of the pyramid provides a solid foundation before addressing issues on higher levels.

    It’s a pity LibDems are choosing to be like the other parties instead of challenging the conventions, proposing more consensual and evidence based policies, espousing the long term prospects for future generations. All but the lunatic fringe now accept that green without nuclear is impossible at current levels of energy use. There will be hell to pay for the politicians when the lights go out because there’s no nuclear, no fracking, not enough solar/wind. Can’t LibDems be the hard-headed party of integrity, logic and reason and leave it to the others to base their appeal on emotion, lobbyists and half-truths?

    I’m loath to wave the “I joined/left the party because…” banner because one voice in a million doesn’t and shouldn’t matter and there’s always the good old phrase “Better to be in the tent pissing out…” however I joined (recently) because I find myself agreeing with much (not all) of what LibDems do and say and believe their position in the coalition is the best thing that’s happened in decades of UK politics. Only the Tories could have started to rebuild the economy after the disastrous Labour mismanagement, but LibDems have knocked some of the sharp corners off the tory approach. Of course we’d like to do more but they’ve got 303 seats LibDems have 56, they’re the dog, we’re the tail.
  • signed 2013-12-19 23:04:21 +0000
    Because it fits the Tory heartland NIMBYs – they do not want any development and you lot are allowing Pickles to dictate any arbitrary restrictions he thinks will please them. Don’t ask for any more support, you lost the ’GREEN credentials when you voted in NUCLEAR.
  • signed 2013-12-19 23:03:57 +0000
    We have no viable alternative that will both reduce the UK’s CO2 emissions and improve our country’s energy security. Keep up the good work.
  • signed 2013-12-19 23:01:41 +0000
    Climate change is happening and unless the whole World go all out to do what it can to stop climate change from demolishing the Planet, there will be no Earth before long. Go Green! ….. it is the only way!
  • signed 2013-12-19 23:01:11 +0000
    I don’t trust you or any of your people.
  • signed 2013-12-19 23:00:05 +0000
    Unlike the brown variety of crap that often leaks from politicians who don’t understand climate science, green crap harnesses the sun like photosynthesis, catches the wind and freshens the air or decomposes to an organic fuel. Green crap can last forever, the brown crap – only for as long as the voters can stand the stench.
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:59:19 +0000
    I like “green crap” because it is essential for a healthy ecosystem, quality of life and the long term well-being of humanity. In addition to tackling climate change, “green crap” includes protecting greenbelt countryside and wildlife habitat from development, not weakening our planning system in favour of greedy developers, not building roads and railways (including HS2) through SSSIs, AONBs and ancient woodland, not slaughtering badgers, not allowing neonic pesticides to harm bees and other pollinators, not threatening to re-legalise barbaric foxhunting, and so forth. Since forming the Coalition, the Liberal Democrats have been a bitter disappointment on most green issues, including those just outlined. Consequently, I will NOT be voting for the Liberal Democrats at the next election (unlike at the previous four general elections) – in power the Lib Dems have betrayed the environment and wildlife and shown they are not a ‘green party’. I feel that my vote for the Liberal Democrats at the last general election (specifically for the appalling anti-wildlife David Heath) was a wasted vote. Never again!
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:59:07 +0000
    Cameron sees the price and not the value, like all people who only understand quality of life by the amount more of it they can purchase than the next person. There are certain things that are priceless, that we all have a stake in no matter how many zeros in our bank accounts and who our parents are. The “green crap” is about looking after those, for ourselves, for ALL the children, and because we must.
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:54:51 +0000
    We need more renewable energy we need to look after the planet for future generations.
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:38:17 +0000
    I do believe in “green crap” but unfortunately for Lib Dems I don’t believe in “green wash.”
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:35:53 +0000
    We must care for the planet or we will wreck it – so many people are trying to do that anyway. We MUST reduce pollution, stop melting the polar caps, stop destroying rainforests in favour of monoculture, etc etc
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:35:11 +0000
    Renewable energy is the future. We rely too much on power sources that are outside of Britain, will all too soon be exhausted or are destroying our environment. The government should be encouraging green energy, not sabotaging it. It’s gambling with our very existence to continue blindly with fossil fuels or build more nuclear power stations.
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:34:50 +0000
    Because it’s the new economy and it includes vital nuclear energy
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:29:32 +0000
    There is no alternative.

    I also think that nuclear power has no place in a green environmental policy. Three reasons come to mind. Firstly it is not carbon neatral. A great deal of carbon is used to build the power stations and to mine and refine the uranium. Secondly it is irresponsible to produce waiste that we do not have a safe long tern disposal policy. Thirdly it is not safe. Four reactors were affected by the recent tsunami in Japan. A long and detailed plan has been worked out for dealing with one of them, but the others are too contaminated to approach to check the damage.
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:28:01 +0000
    Frankly, I don’t believe that any political party, in the UK, is truly green and, as a result, no political party is fit for purpose! Let’s face it, most promises concerned with the environment are merely aspirational i.e. a healthy environment would be nice to have in a perfect world. This is a catastrophic outlook – for which future generations will suffer grievous harm.

    No legitimate British politician, these days, would dream of discriminating against people on the basis of their ethnicity or sexual orientation. But any politician who refuses to take the environment seriously is most definitely discriminating against young children and the unborn – because it is highly likely that they will grow up in a depleted and devastated world.

    All politicians should heed the words of the American environmental philosopher, David Suzuki:

    “Now there are some things in the world we can’t change – gravity, entropy, the speed of light, the first and second Laws of Thermodynamics, and our biological nature that requires clean air, clean water, clean soil, clean energy and biodiversity for our health and well being. Protecting the biosphere should be our highest priority or else we sicken and die. Other things, like capitalism, free enterprise, the economy, currency, the market, are not forces of nature, we invented them. They are not immutable and we can change them. It makes no sense to elevate economics above the biosphere, for example.”

    We all need to breathe air, drink water and eat food. It is a statement of the blindingly obvious that we cannot survive without these things! But their constant supply depends completely upon a healthy environment. We really have no choice but to give the environment the highest priority.
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:21:42 +0000
    I do, but I don’t like wind turbines in the wrong places, and I don’t like them too close to peoples homes. I do not think it is fair when people are to be rightly compensated for loss of damage by the High speed railway and yet not if their house is devalued by a wind farm. We are told they are not, but it is not true, they are, and quite considerably. Build wind farms, compensate people properly if they are near homes, and look to developing better forms of energy, thank you.
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:20:43 +0000
    The environment is very important to everyone living on our planet. Not just those living in Britain but to people all over the world. As a father and grandfather I am concerned that if our generation fails to look after the environment – WHO WILL!

    You can bet on it that the Tories simply don’t care. They claim to care – they have a little green tree for their logo but the truth has a way of coming out! If “Green Crap” is what our Tory PM calls it, you will know we are in trouble. He simply makes a mockery of sensible environmental policies.

    What I want to see for the future is a world living in PEACE – if we do not love the world & its people I can see the next generation going down the pan!

    John Stephen

    Wyre Forest member
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:19:13 +0000
    we have had years of properganda in the 70’s it was the 4 min warning,

    since then we have had running out of water in the 90’s, bird flu swine flu etc

    why dont you lib dems m/ps do something about the here and now.

    and stop children from freezing cause their parents have to pay the bedroom tax

    or oap’s from dying this winter cause they cant afford their heating.
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:13:04 +0000
    The Liberal Democrat party, by failing to prevent the Hinkly C deal with EDF, including such favourable terms as index-linked buying of energy produced, under-writing of project costs, and free insurance, will dump massive costs (variously quoted as £14Bn or £18Bn) on the UK’s energy users and tax-payers. £18Bn is roughly £700 per household, and that doesn’t include the costs of decommissioning or, in the worst case, accident. You could have built a lot of extra, genuine Green energy infrastructure with that £14Bn!
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:09:58 +0000
    Sustainable energy is the only way to the future. Poisoning the earth with greenhouse gases is killing people. Nuclear power doesn’t produce CO2 but has the unsolved problem of disposal of nuclear waste. Green all the way please
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:05:42 +0000
    Been a liberal since I was in my 20’s in my 60’s now but am sorry I think the Tory government is a much bigger threat to a fair society Than any green agenda you may have—-hate to think I may vote labour but!!!!!!
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:03:19 +0000
    It is important to preserve things for the future it is not ours to ruin we are here to preserve it for all generations to come
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  • signed 2013-12-19 22:02:28 +0000
    Clean air, clean water, unpolluted earth, and a mild crop-growing climate are all essential to sustain life. Maybe the very rich can go and live in any part of the world they like, while the poor die off in the areas destroyed by corporate interests. But that’s not my vision of the future – my vision is of a world in which rich and poor work together to build strong and stable nations and sustainable trade, that’s what I’ve always campaigned for, and always will.
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  • signed 2013-12-19 21:55:44 +0000
    Sorry, there is no alternate box to fill so I must use this one. After over 20 years I left the party because Chris Huhne was prepared to raise the tax on fuel and energy even higher at the expense of the poorest people. That is the policy of a cruel party, and all this wasted money on wind farms which can’t ever produce usable power and other subsidies are destroying the world economy for an imaginary problem set so far in the future we’ll never know as it’s long outside our lifetimes. Shame on you and Labour for promoting such dangerous policies knowing how many people die of cold every year as a direct result. I hope others agree with me and leave as well.

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