Do you like "green crap"?

David Cameron is reported to have recently said we should “get rid of all the green crap”.

Well Liberal Democrats like “green crap”. In fact, we like it so much we are creating 200,000 new green jobs.

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Do you like green crap? Tell us why...

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  • signed 2013-12-19 20:53:36 +0000
    I am very much in favour of green investment but to do this on a material scale, the country must be wealthy. As the experience in the US is showing, cheap energy is a powerful driver of wealth creation. We must learn this lesson and not oppose the development of shale gas in the UK.
  • signed 2013-12-19 20:31:30 +0000
    Environmental degradation, climate change and overconsumption are immanent problems that our generation must overcome.
  • signed 2013-12-19 20:30:46 +0000
    Personally because, as an allergy sufferer, I’m not sure that conventional tests of what is safe – say food or water – are reliable. Otherwise, I would welcome more effort on R and D where green technologies are concerned. That just has to be part of the future, not least for the British economy.
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  • signed 2013-12-19 20:25:30 +0000
    I like this green crap as I would like my children to grow up in a cleaner world. Our future depends on it
  • signed 2013-12-19 20:24:22 +0000
    The UK generates23,177,170,000 pounds of poo/Brown crap this poo/ Brown crap if we convert this to methane the residue used to fertilise food crops we would be £ in pocket from crap . You know it makes sense !
  • signed 2013-12-19 20:16:24 +0000
    The environment is, as the previous tweeter, says, ultimately what keeps us alive. It should be the starting-point for consideration of every policy: how does this policy affect the environment, is it sustainable, how does it fit with our overall objective, which should be to improve the sustainability of the environment year on year? The Lib-Dems have an opportunity to grab this ground and they should take it. Take over the green mantle. And by the way, ‘green’ policies could generate lots of jobs, including good, well-paid ones – as long as we develop and exploit green technologies here in the UK.
  • signed 2013-12-19 20:04:43 +0000
    I like “green crap” because it’s the thing that keeps us alive. We have to love the world for it to love us back.
  • @JamesCraigie1 tweeted link to this page. 2013-12-19 20:02:51 +0000
  • signed 2013-12-19 20:02:08 +0000
    I like Green Crap. Prudent economic insurance policy against inevitable upward trend in fossil fuel prices and inevitable future oil shock events. Unlike most Tory ministers I will still be alive in 50 years time and living with consequences of inaction. With green tech comes new markets and skilled jobs, our country must capitalise on these or lose out to rising global competition.
  • signed 2013-12-19 20:01:34 +0000
    I like the “Green Crap” because I’d like to preserve the living standards we have become accustomed too, rather than allowing extreme weather destroying our food supplies, homes and work places. Keep the “Green Crap” because people like eating!
  • signed 2013-12-19 19:30:11 +0000
    one of the worst things about humans is how they ‘crap on their own doorstep’. Surely one of the fundamental things we all should be thinking about is looking after our environment. It ‘aint rocket science…don’t destroy the thing you live on/off !!! If I wasn’t Lib Dem, I’d be green! (WARNING)
  • signed 2013-12-19 19:23:34 +0000
    I believe that current CO2 levels are a serious concern and it would be lunacy not to do something about it. Having said that I don’t believe in a lot of the baloney that’s pulped out about climate change, what is really causing it, and where it will all lead. And the way people automatically attribute unusual weather effects to (human induced) climate change is mostly ill founded. No one really knows exactly what is going on with the climate, and that is the real problem. It is therefore prudent seriously to take what steps we can to limit CO2 emissions, to continue to fund research, and to prepare for the worst (in terms of serious permanent damaging climate change) should it occur. So yes I do believe in Green Crap if it means doing what I have just written.
  • signed 2013-12-19 19:05:38 +0000
    Government seems to have forgot that we are heading fast for global warming.

    If we don’t make our houses more energy efficient, as well as businesses, we will lose out, economically in the UK and internationally.

    We need 1 million green jobs, insulating homes, training and making and building a new green infrastructure.

    We waste money in the shops, rather than building our health via good food. It doesn’t have to be fresh and local. In fact quick-frozen food, which could be organically grown, is pretty efficient, and does not lose its vitamins as the days pass. Frozen food cooks efficiently and easily.

    I’d like to see much more European/International co-operation to ensure that natural energy from the wind, sun and tides, is made available around the continent.

    1% of the Sahars, and the other deserts around the word, is capable of producing 24/7/365 energy from sun and wind, producing energy and water for Africa, Europe and world-wide, creating thousands of jobs in the process.
  • signed 2013-12-19 18:20:40 +0000
    because we have a responsibility to the earth and to future generations. For too long we’ve been opting for short term solutions. This takes the long term seriously.
  • signed 2013-12-19 18:09:56 +0000
    It’s too easy to be the party of “now” and buy voters today and too expensive to be seen as the green party of tomorrow. Europe needs to be competitive in energy costs whilst getting out of fossil based energy long term and be open to all non carbon solutions including nuclear. Think long term and invest accordingly. Tapping into Iceland’s natural and green energy abundance via DC High Voltage distribution systems is a great example of one solution. Germany is out investing us in this area already a European approach could help balance out energy costs taking Solar from the mediterranean is another possibility. Going it alone is crap in whatever color you like.
  • signed 2013-12-19 18:08:06 +0000
    The environment matters to me because without urgent government action the planet will become a very difficult place to live on for a very large number of people and that will affect us all.

    Today’s actions are a step in the right direction but I would urge still greater investment, money for research and development etc. The lack of urgency amongst the governments of the world, including the British government over this issue is criminally negligent.
  • signed 2013-12-19 17:59:38 +0000
    DARA International recently issued a detailed item of research suggesting that 400,000 people were being killed annually due to climate change. The vast majority of these were in the world’s poorest of countries, and most were children. This can only get worse if we let the Tory and UKIP values of selfishness win.
  • signed 2013-12-19 17:57:02 +0000
    The future is green.


    Germany and China know this and are at the head of the race, UK needs to catch up. USA is handicapped by the Tea party baggage


    What we need to get rid off is the “blue crap” on the tory benches
  • signed 2013-12-19 17:52:59 +0000
    With ever growing energy use by emerging economies, and deminishing supplies, fossil fuel prices will continue to rise. Even ignoring the environmental benefits, green technology is vital for our economic future. Cameron dropping the “green crap” would be like his predecessor Sir Robert Peel dropping the “railway crap”.
  • signed 2013-12-19 17:49:27 +0000
    If the Conservatives think that setting fire to the planet is the answer for the future they are in denial of simple logic and are being selfish at the expense of the next generations.
  • signed 2013-12-19 17:48:33 +0000
    Without it there will be no future for our children. I cannot think of a more compelling reason
  • signed 2013-12-19 17:45:25 +0000
    I have Grandchildren . We need to plan now so that they will still be able to have light and heat when they are my age or even when they are of working age.
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  • signed 2013-12-19 17:19:27 +0000
    “The Earth is not ours to squander”…we must protect our environment and live sustainably – or there will be no future for our children and those following us.

    I am a Quaker and this is a famous quote. unless we live sustainably – ‘the lights will go out’- and we will not have a planet to live on,.
  • signed 2013-12-19 17:17:12 +0000
    Yes it creates jobs but we need to rethink, not just ramble on about more jobs, more houses, expand, etc. There will come a time when we cannot expand anymore as this planet is finite. Anyway; all new builds should have pv as the roof covering which will alleviate energy demands. Wind and solar farms should be encouraged as the land can then be kept for productive use. Bio fuels etc are really a stopgap and should be concentrated on producing electricity. All new electrical goods should be limited as to the amount of power they consume. Lighting should now have cfl phased out and led phased in. This could be done with the same “subsidy” used to promote cfl’s recently. Which was a poor decision as leds were coming in. A complete rethink on public lighting should be undertaken to rationalize the lighting level. Reducing the level of lighting is old hat. We now have intelligence that can “see” people/vehicles and the lighting of streets can now be “on demand” not simply on when it is dark. Reduce the current supplied by the National Grid to 220v +-2.5% this will reduce National consumption and lengthen the life of electrical appliances. Finally to reduce paper, abolish the displaying of the car tax disc. Al the information is on the PNC system and anyone not paying can be seen immediately by police. There is no displaying of insurance, mot, driving licence, etc so keep the windscreen clear, reduce all that paper.
  • signed 2013-12-19 17:16:24 +0000
    I like “Green Crap” because what we do to our environment now will impact on the lives of my grand children.
  • signed 2013-12-19 17:11:59 +0000
    You shouldnt repeat their bad words. Its reinforcing a terrible message. Why is the environment important? Its like asking why is oxygen important.
  • signed 2013-12-19 17:10:05 +0000
    I read Silent Spring when it was first published, at that time expecting my third child. My commitment to the environment began then, and fitted with my lifelong (from Joe Grimond’s days) commitment to the Liberal Party. Not surprisingly to me both my sons are professional environmentalists, one a leading academic, the other a consultant to governments. I do my personal best to live according to my principles – I don’t fly, drive less, meter my water, keep energy use modest – and I could do better. I am troubled by some Lib Dem policies – but then I’m a Liberal, not really a Lib Dem and can’t see how nuclear power can be OK when a) uranium is another finite fuel and b) we have no idea how to keep future generations safe from the waste. If I were younger I would be a Green Party candidate.But I’ll still vote Lib Dem and retain my party membership at least for a while longer, on the basis that if it’s OK for Simon Hughes then who am I to judge….
  • signed 2013-12-19 17:09:28 +0000
    Where do I begin? Quite apart from the official literature about the doubled-edged disgrace of:

    a) plundering the biosphere of its often non-replaceable riches;

    b) turned them into something that’s either toxic or unusable;

    and c) doing that is such ways that the rare elements cannot be recovered (that’s three!) I have my own, personal gut feeling about ti – that no politician can gainsay.


    At age 13 (about 1960) I was concerned to learn of industrial waste being dumped. I collected ring-pulls through the 80’s, saved tin cans and read with surprise that a local man was collecting them to be “recycled” – an eccentric and rare thing to do in 1978. I worked near a landfill site in Reading and was horrifed to se what we humans create as useless rubbish.


    As an amateur geologist, I weep at the often cosmetic and wasteful plunder of irreplaceable minerals:

    1) Fuller’s earth takes millions of years to form in specific palaeo-climates and then we mine it to use as cat litter, by the tonne. It could be used in reverentially smaller quantities for chemical processes but comparatively soon the UK’s rare deposits (around Redhill, Surrey) will be gone – and we’ll have to import it – if China doesn’t start using it for cat litter.

    2) Rare peat bogs (e.g. red bogs) thousands of years in the making are still being mined for surburban gardeners to use – instead of more available municipal compost.

    3) Helium gas in the physics department in my university used to be sucked back so that none was wasted – so valuable it was. The Earth’s gravity cannot hold it, so any helium in the atmosphere escapes into space. Therefore, our supply of helium depends on a very slow radioactive decay (radium – to lead?). When too many birthday and festival balloons have been laucnhed we’ll finf that there’s no helium for NMR scans, low-temperature research, future airships, etc.

    4) You know all about the devasting mining techniques being used in Indonesia to get tin (we had tin mines in Cornwall but proper mining is more expensive than this…) stripping the cover, vegetation, soil, eco-systems – to get CHEAP tin, and other raer-earth metals. Mobile phones and i-gadgets will have to be priced at their true cost – which will be the cost of mining and/or recycling metals that respects the environment -often of poorer nations who have little bargaing power agains the global corporations. Then maybe people will hang on to their “gadgets” and give them more respect.

    5) I’m even worried about the over-consumption of limstone, kaolin and other clays. Clay, once fired into earthenware, does not turn back into clay – it’s effectively a one-way process. So bricks, tiles, pottery, etc. cannot be recycled. Once all the available clay deposits are gone – that’s it.

    6) I’ve probably omitted scores of other irreplaceable elements and minerals – e.g.silver is getting harder to resource.


    7) Next, the “Three Rs” positive actions to reduce, reuse, and recycle,.


    I am personally making enquiries to recycle wet paper and card – in connxion with my Festival-based business. There is a bit of complacency in the event industry – as the APPG has reported recently in connexion with BVEP Alliance and the Visit Britain campaign.


    I also wonder why Denmark and countries as far afield as sub-Sarahan states and Nepal are able to make industrial use of human urine but in the UK we continue to throw it away and then pay heavily in terms of energy to fix nitrogen for fertilizer. We still have a long way to go as an industrial economy.


    I’f better stop now. Be assured that I and my Business will continue to pursue the last two aims.

    Bob Harrs


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