Do you like "green crap"?

David Cameron is reported to have recently said we should “get rid of all the green crap”.

Well Liberal Democrats like “green crap”. In fact, we like it so much we are creating 200,000 new green jobs.

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Do you like green crap? Tell us why...

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I like "green crap" because...


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  • signed 2013-12-20 10:14:35 +0000
    In the longer term everything other than greener options carry higher costs and significant dangers, so this is somewhere we need to be leading not following late.
  • signed 2013-12-20 10:05:02 +0000
    I don’t like the term green crap. It shows a complete disregard for all things that I hold dear. The planet, our planet, the only one we have, is being poisoned by pollutants in the atmosphere and it is reacting against them. Climate change is real, it is happening, and we still,have time to sort it out. All it needs is the will to do it. I do not think for one moment that this government (and I know that you are part of it as a coalition) is holding firm to its path of sorting out the deficit. The mess that we are in is due to the banks and the poor are paying the price for this. The government is hurling itself from one wild scheme to the next with no obvious plan unless it is to make the rich richer. A green policy, of cutting carbon emissions, making more green jobs, installing better insulation in our leaky homes, all of these were in place, and were wrecked by this government. The green ecomony was flourishing and the only one that was supporting the country. This government pulled the plug on this and stopped it. Cutting the feed in tariff was illegal and Osbourne was taken to court and lost four times. The green deal is a complete farce and I have said this many times. No one will want to be linked to a loan with the big 6 energy companies to reduce their energy bills. It does not make sense and they do not trust the energy companies. They rip us off all the time and are only interested in profit. Yes take away the green levy from them, it will reduce the bills by £50 per annum. But take away the subsidy to the oil and gas industry and it will reduce it by much more than that. We need to reduce our dependency on oil and gas, indeed all fossil fuels. So can I ask why this government is pushing for fracking? This will reduce our carbon emmissions but this is methane extraction which is a far more potent greenhouse gas and will make climate change worse. This is before we approach the problems of the 4 million gallons of water for each frack for each well. This water is full of toxis chemicals and sand. It will never be cleaned. Who will pay for this water? Will they pay? The frackers? Will they pay for all the water and the stress on our water supply? Will they pay for attempting to clean up the polluted water? Where are you going to put it when some of it comes back up with the gas? Tankers were lined up along the road in Lancashire after they finished there and then they suddenly disppeared. No one will tell me wherer they went but rumour has it they dumped it in the Manchester Ship Canal. Is that ther reaction of a responsible government? I would hope that if you are really showing your green credentials now that you will stop this fracking now. Support for this must stop. There is already more than enough gas and oil in this world without polluting our water, our land for farming and our air. What will happend to the farming and farm land when it is poisoned by the frackers? What will happen to the tourist industry when people stop visiting our beautiful land as there are great big ugly rigs everywhere flaring gas. What will happen to all those jobs and revenue when you destroy it for a mere handful of jobs in the fracking industry. The so called jobs in the fracking industry are not real. There are a few who are specialist riggers who will come from abroad (US) and maybe a couple on each rig. But remember that most of these rigs are not staffed.

    Mr Cameron stared that he did not want the EU to stop the nascent fracking industry halted as it was bringing so much money and jobs to UK. I totally dispute that. The money will not go to Britain it will go to Cameron’s buddies in that industry and I doubt that they will pay any tax. And how hypocritical of him when he completely stopped the nascent renewables industry when it was taking off.

    Why am I green? Because I love this land, the water, the air. I want to keep it that way. I want to live in a world where there is no threat from climate change. And if you can do that ….
  • signed 2013-12-20 10:04:42 +0000
    If we care about our health and our children, “green crap” is not an option, it is a must. We need fewer planes polluting our countryside, less WiFi disturbing our brains (though that is a faint hope), fewer pesticides, no dangerous nuclear power which will threaten our existence and so on. The green agenda is one we ignore at our peril and our children will suffer if we forget it.
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:58:59 +0000
    Because I want my children to enjoy all the beautiful Kent country and sea side we have in Dover & Deal.
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:50:38 +0000
    So that we can stop building unnecessary expensive houses on green field sites, such as is happening in Taunton and its surrounding villages when there is plenty of room on undeveloped brown field sites to meet the actual demand.

    Stop wasting money and time on mechanically inefficient wind turbines and tidal barrages and concentrate on making and using highly efficient marine current tidal turbines, which are at least 8 times more mechanically efficient and cost 100 times less to build, install and maintain. These have been proved to work in Carlingford Lough and we should stop trying to convince people that wind turbines work efficiently when they do not just because a lot of rich people have invested in them. They are comparatively useless and only work for about 30 percent of the time because of wind and weather damage. This does not happen to tidal turbines that are safely 20 to 40 metres below the winds and waves. Tides can be predicted. Winds cannot.
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  • signed 2013-12-20 09:49:10 +0000
    Because it’s a vote for the future, and for enabling future generations to live on this planet
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:48:24 +0000
    If we don’t look after the environment, then what have we got? We need SUSTAINABLE, RENEWABLE energy and economic policies.
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:44:44 +0000
    I am very much against increasing pollution,both in the air and in our oceans.

    the present state of what ,Naomi Klein calls ;Disaster Capitalism’ is incompatible with green policies.Until this is acknowledged I see little real hope of fundamental change.
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:39:06 +0000
    I do support green measures, but I don’t like wind turbines all over our beautiful countryside.
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:36:56 +0000
    The tories’ attitude towards the environment is an example of their short term outlook. For me the environment is a burning question that we ignore at our peril. I admire the Lib Dem stance and how it has generally tried to temper the tory juggernaut on other issues.
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:30:56 +0000
    I believe passionately that we should live as lightly as possible on the earth, so any legislation that helps us do that is good. It is also good for jobs, because ‘green’ measures are usually labour-intensive.
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:30:46 +0000
    I want my grandchildren to have a world they can enjoy, not a barren wilderness laid waste through the continued abuse of non-renewable resources.
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:25:35 +0000
    I am green because I want more government investment in renewable energy as it is the only sensible way to secure our energy and economical future. The Tories talk and do crap!
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:25:32 +0000
    We are faced with a denial of reality, which is actually a form of madness. Most political activity looks very much like Nero fiddling while Rome burns. When anyone says that raising material living standards in the UK must take priority over raising green standards it is as crazy as saying that having a better sun tan must have priority over avoiding skin cancer.

    As we are still stuck with the present voting system I would like to see more strategic and tactical co-operation between Lib Dems and The Green Party.
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:25:14 +0000
    It will save the world from exploitation
  • signed via 2013-12-20 09:24:25 +0000
    I hate the waste of money on these off and on-shore wind farms,; money which is piled onn to ordinary people’s electricity bills. Our communities are being wrecked by industrial installations on every hillside, damaging our tourist industry and the lives of people who live near them.

    I used to be a Lib-Dem member, but no more
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:19:31 +0000
    When we are 95% certain we are causing serious damage by carbon emissions, the damage which is likely to cost at least 10 or more times the cost of prevention, only the extremely self deluded would want to carry on burning oil, coal and gas at the same rates. We can’t avoid the very inconvenient truth that we need to make serious attempts to reduce consumption and find other cleaner energy sources. Renewable energy is home grown, reduces our emissions and also our reliance on imported fuels from potentially unreliable sources; sources over which we have absolutely no cost control, as demonstrated by recent yearly hikes in gas and oil prices. Only the seriously self-deluded would consider pumping chemicals into the ground to extract shale gas and think that it won’t eventually contaminate our water and rivers.
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:19:15 +0000
    Secure and affordable energy is a matter of deep national security. It is pathetic that policy and decision makers attack green investment and levies and SHIELD the shareholder mass that holds the majority in our population to ransom (aka treason). The Cameron comment has some truth given a full generation of fuzzy, dysfunctional development policy. There’s no resilience. The counter to Brundtland’s future proof advice has come to be. Green policy is never determined/ resilient enough to achieve its eloquent potential. NB: with energy requisition, it’s dangerous folly to misrepresent average household income in stats as something c£27,000. Disposable income (limited by fixed costs) indicates fuel poverty. Being warm (food quality) is what households must cut first.
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:12:57 +0000
    It is essential to plan long term and secure a viable future for our descendants. Failing to pursue a green agenda is guaranteed to condemn them to economic and social chaos. Also, the UK needs to be at the forefront of green policy if is to stay ahead of other countires in the situation that is developing.
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:12:49 +0000
    We must produce our energy,in this country,with the smallest carbon footprint that is available to us. We then have the high moral ground and can then pressurise other countries to do likewise.Jobs are nice too. F.John Hicks
  • signed 2013-12-20 09:08:22 +0000
    I like “green crap” because doing something now about energy, carbon emissions, and environmental degradation could well work out cheaper, as well as better for us and our children and grandchildren, than leaving it until the planet overheats and we have a disaster or two…
  • signed 2013-12-20 08:52:19 +0000
    ‘Like’ is the wrong word. in fact it is measure of the cynical ignorance of those that speak in that way. The green is necessary, if we take the well-being of our grandchildren and their children at all seriously.
  • signed 2013-12-20 08:37:48 +0000
    Climate change is real and could have devastating effects. Biodiversity is being lost so rapidly – the web of life may only take so much.

    Short term thinking, selfishess and greed are laughable in the face of this. It’s like being in a plane that’s about to crash, and distracting the aircrew because your drink has been spilt!

    People are living in homes that they can’t afford to heat adequately. Worse, people are dying because they can’t afford to heat their homes. Those in poverty or fuel poverty need help.

    ‘Greenest government ever’ will need a new adjective if we ‘cut the green crap’.
  • signed 2013-12-20 08:37:28 +0000
    nothing is changing. although everyone says how they’d like a green and pleasant land, the majority continue to drive cars eat meat and catch planes. at government level we didn’t invest in renewable 30 years back, so now they will renew nuclear by DOUBLING the cost of energy.Meanwhile the big debate is about a small green levy on energy. Basically people are not going to say “I want to see the destruction of the planet” because that sounds a bit “evil”, but we only want green if it doesn’t change things
  • signed 2013-12-20 08:33:01 +0000
    We all have to do our bit to ensure that the world is a hospitable place to live and raise a family. The environment must be regulated by government because it is a public good that the free market, left to its own devices, would not be able to protect. It takes everyone doing little things well and often, as well as some big stakeholders (companies etc.) ensuring that they run a tight ship. I like “green crap” as you put it because it is necessary for the wellbeing of society. Those who don’t feel the same either underestimate its importance or assume that in a world of inequality the rich will be able to rise above any side-effects that result from letting the environment suffer. But the environment is the one thing we all must share. And doubters of enviro-importance would be well advised to muck in with the rest of us.


    I also support the green deal as it is an opportunity in the middle of a problem. An opportunity for growth, to grow a new industry utilising our heritage in science, design and innovation to provide new jobs and training to thousands of young persons keen to get on. This could just be the beginning of a burgeoning landscape of green enterprise, the likes of which, in years to come, we will wonder how we ever coped without it.


    The environment is our home, the knock on effects of environmental mismanagement are grossly underestimated and often forgotten or past onto the public purse. Rather than being an exterior, auxiliary, dispensable consideration for legislation, it should be at its core.
  • signed 2013-12-20 08:30:19 +0000
    Hey Nick, I’m a green LibDem NOT a Green! Those who complain about ‘big business’ being responsible for damage to the environment should take a look closer to home and address their own use of energy and wasteful consumption. Globalisation has brought the world much closer and yes it has created more demand for consumption but it is up to us as consumers to demand business is less wasteful. It is also up to us to reduce our own and our community’s effects on the environment.


    Nick, please support the campaign to give £10/head from the transport budget to cycling. And not for a year or two in certain towns as Labour and the coalition have done, but make it the rule!
  • signed 2013-12-20 08:23:27 +0000
    As long as the world is ruled by the rich for the rich it doesn’t really matter what I like or not… even now there are plans to burn more oil and gas while the meat industry emits more methane than the world can bear. Does anything anyone likes matter? I doubt it…
  • signed 2013-12-20 08:14:41 +0000
    I’m green because there is no alternative – we cant go on the way we are. We need to rethink our economic system (we cant have perpetual growth on a single planet) and we all need to understand that more isnt always better – “enough is best” is the way to go.


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