Do you like "green crap"?

David Cameron is reported to have recently said we should “get rid of all the green crap”.

Well Liberal Democrats like “green crap”. In fact, we like it so much we are creating 200,000 new green jobs.


Do you like green crap? Tell us why...

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I like "green crap" because...

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  • signed 2013-12-20 07:27:54 +0000
    Of course I care about the planet. Stop repeating the use of this phrase ‘green crap’ – it just perpetuates the message David Cameron is trying to get across. Given the IPCC’s report this year showing incontrovertably that climate change is man made, the more you can do to fight back against this Tory rhetoric the better. Humans have one planet to live one, with finite resources and our quest for infinite growth is putting the very earth we rely on at risk. Stop pandering to Tory market-led decision making and stand up for the planet and its citizens. Start by investing in renewables and insulating Britain’s housing stock and we’ll see our demand for fossil fuels going down, jobs increasing and a reduction in the amout of CO2 the UK emits.
  • signed 2013-12-20 07:24:34 +0000
    We need to reduce green-house gases emissions and keep the impact on our world’s environment of increased industrialisation to a minimum. People who do not support measures to do this are risking world-wide catastrophe, based either on the ignorance and prejudice of unreasoned rejection of scientific facts in favour of creationist mumbo-jumbo, or through arrogant self-interest based on putting short-term financial benefit to a few richer communities and companies ahead of the wider interests of the majority of the 7 billion people alive at the moment.

    Whatever the Tories or Labour and their supporters in the big energy companies may say, as Lib Dems we have a duty to stand up for the poor and underprivileged already suffering from the effects of global warming, as well as generation yet to come. We really are at a pivotal point in world history: either take practical and immediate steps to safeguard our environment, or see extreme weather events proliferate, sea-levels rise inexorably, and countless millions starve to death or die in new wars over increasingly limited resources.
  • signed 2013-12-20 06:19:17 +0000
    We should NOT REPEAT this stupid expression (you could call this expression ‘Reactionary crap’ if you like)… ‘Green’ is good of course as a word but it may be too banal now. Let’s not be afoodman of using longer phrases: ‘measures to improve the environment’, give people a better quality of life, and’ promote health’.

    Also let’s not be afraid of contentious issues.. Like the noise pollution produced by wind farms (choice of siting), the fact that the paper/electronic device carbon footprint analysis is not as evident as one might think. Let’s find ways of reducing the need for energy (new lighting systems are a good example), that’s a sure bet.

    Of course no one will put the clock back, can’t stop people wanting the latest devices for example, but let’s take a carefully informed view of the issues and not just a short-term political one (like these Tories seem to be doing). We support a better quality of life now and for our children and our children’s children.
  • signed 2013-12-20 05:28:20 +0000
    I’m green, and have been for a very long time, because I fear for the very exsitance of Planet Earth as we know it if we do not address our continued worldwide distruction of the environment. We have dithered far too long and may well have gone past the point of no return for the planet to repair itself in the short term. That is not a very good legacy to leave for the worlds future generations.
  • signed 2013-12-20 04:41:10 +0000
    200,000 is a good start. Soon the country will realize that, as every aspect of the economy only functions because energy is used and, as every aspect of ecology (including our food supply) depends on climate, that every job will soon be first and foremost, a green job. The LibDems have given Cameron a lot but is this works, it will be worth it.
  • signed 2013-12-20 04:37:56 +0000
    We must do our bit to ensure the survival of the beautiful, green Earth, and also essentially of our grandchildren; and to ensure the future of humanity.
  • signed 2013-12-20 04:35:35 +0000
  • signed 2013-12-20 04:21:50 +0000
    Because the future of our planet is something worth fighting for! I am green because if we are not the future is black. Looking after the finite reserves and stopping harmful warming will leave a disastrous legacy for the future that may be irreversible.
  • signed 2013-12-20 02:31:46 +0000
    All the scientists agree that C)2 emissions are changing our climate. Our children will have to live through cataclysmic times if we don’t act NOW.
  • signed 2013-12-20 01:16:11 +0000
    We’re already living beyond our means. If we don’t start living responsibly soon we may not have anything left to live on.
  • signed 2013-12-20 00:25:04 +0000
    why don’t you tell me how it works first?
  • signed 2013-12-20 00:22:57 +0000
    It’s green crap when Sutton Council Lib Dem councillors and Lib Dem MP Tom Brake support the coming Viridor incinerator development of all places in the Wandle Valley Linear Park and Open Metropolitan Land green belt which will spew out nano particles 24/7/365 for at least 20 years which are suspected in other similar developments of causing cancer. These fumes are to spread from their high pair of chimneys across the whole borough and neighbouring boroughs at the whim of the prevailing wind current. I don’t like this green crap one little bit especially with my asthma and cancers I have already.
  • signed 2013-12-20 00:16:48 +0000
    I am in favour of energy from renewable sources, which reduces the the amount of greenhouse gases, which cause global warming.

    I have invested in Triodos Renewables, who have several small wind farms.
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  • signed 2013-12-20 00:11:07 +0000
    On top of everything else, fracking contracts being sneakily granted all over the place is a huge worry. The Conservatives like only one green thing, and that’s the paper folding stuff they love to steal from everyone else. If we don’t ensure a sustainable future on this one little blue and green rock in space we call home, the only home we’ve got, we will not only die, but take out the majority of all other living things with us.

    This will actually put cockroaches further up the food chain than Conservatives globally. Not just the odious ones we call Tories in this nation. Cockroaches won’t care if they’re eating the remains of a Socialist, Liberal or a Conservative.

    I actually feel sorry for anyone who’s had children since about 1990.Our current legacy to those future people is looking pretty grim right now.
  • signed 2013-12-19 23:59:00 +0000
    hello Edward,

    I just love your “green crap”

    So many thanks for writing to me about “green crap”

    Now you are in power and privileged to secret information I will trust you.

    So tell me, what change to the rate of climate change has all the previous “green crap” made.

    I am a scientist so you can give me the raw data on which you base your decision………………………

    If you do not know for sure whether you are helping or hindering climate change then are you sure your policies are doing good or bad? — and if you are sure then please show me the evidence on which you base such an assertion. (You can write to me in your layman’s language if that helps you.)

    I mean, are you informed or just dogmatic? Are you the kind of “doctor” who would prescribe more of the same medicine in a crisis?

    To be blunt, are you a mouth organ of popularist propaganda or someone who cares about evidence based fact, ie, the truth?

    And yes….as you asked so nicely, I will be pleased to donate to any good cause.

    However, please convince me how our current “green” 200,000 jobs are little better than taking in each others washing.

    D. James B.Sc.(Hons)

    ps…. I do not expect you to read this, or, if you did, to give a coherent response.

    May your god help us all !!!!!!!
  • signed 2013-12-19 23:55:25 +0000
  • signed 2013-12-19 23:53:14 +0000
    Because I have worked in the agricultural industry both as a farm manager, ecologist and owning my own farm for 40 years, and have witnessed established weather patterns breaking down, crop and wildlife phenology going out of phase, and the terrifying spread of harmful diseases of crops, trees and livestock to higher latitudes as the climate warms.

    I am very concerned about the ability of UK agriculture to maintain yields at current levels let alone feed the increasing population.

    I wonder what legacy we will leave to my grandchildren.
  • signed 2013-12-19 23:22:29 +0000
    Unlike many politicians, who are only looking a few years ahead to the next election, building a lasting legacy requires a long-term view. Investing in green energy makes sense in so many ways, resources are not depleted and will not run out, prices will not fluctuate for wind, tidal or solar energy (as they will for oil, gas, shale, nuclear).

    But most of all, our environment cannot stand up to another century of the kind of degradation that has taken place since the industrial revolution. How many more diseases do we have to deal with today thanks to air and water pollution? How many more mining accidents or oil spills need to occur?

    At every level, green energy makes sense!!!
  • signed 2013-12-19 23:17:09 +0000
    Approaching a damaged nuclear plant in Japan is dangerous for humans, but unmanned drones with radiation detectors are being developed in Britain to help with that problem and have been publicised. The wall that was supposed to protect the nuclear reactor in Japan was inadequate against the tsunami, which looks like a mistake. Others decisions to save money taken by the Japanese power company are very worrying, because the same financial and economic pressures apply everywhere.

    Insulating people’s homes is not ‘green crap’ it is common sense, it saves fuel and therefore money, it helps to keep the occupants warm, it saves lives. Such a program should not be cut. Reducing consumption of fuel is as important as increasing production of fuel. The Green Party also argues this, but has only one MP out of 650. All levels of government in the UK must act on this. We do not need so many Trident submarines. Nick Harvey MP said at Glasgow conference in 2013 that a study had been done and that there is no-one out there who has both the means and the intention to attack us.
  • signed 2013-12-19 23:15:18 +0000
    It’s a global problem. UKs contribution is tiny compared to, say, China. Some green initiatives are sound, others are crap. I burn a litre of petrol to go to the supermarket but the green focus is on the free plastic bag. I like “green” but I don’t like the “green crap” and there’s a lot of it about.

    Politicians like to make out there are clear cut good/bad choices. The reality is far more complex, there’s a spectrum, the bad choices have some postive aspects and the good options invariably come with a downside. We need an analogue of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs but rather than for the individual, for society and the state. Politicians might do well to focus on ensuring the wide base of the pyramid provides a solid foundation before addressing issues on higher levels.

    It’s a pity LibDems are choosing to be like the other parties instead of challenging the conventions, proposing more consensual and evidence based policies, espousing the long term prospects for future generations. All but the lunatic fringe now accept that green without nuclear is impossible at current levels of energy use. There will be hell to pay for the politicians when the lights go out because there’s no nuclear, no fracking, not enough solar/wind. Can’t LibDems be the hard-headed party of integrity, logic and reason and leave it to the others to base their appeal on emotion, lobbyists and half-truths?

    I’m loath to wave the “I joined/left the party because…” banner because one voice in a million doesn’t and shouldn’t matter and there’s always the good old phrase “Better to be in the tent pissing out…” however I joined (recently) because I find myself agreeing with much (not all) of what LibDems do and say and believe their position in the coalition is the best thing that’s happened in decades of UK politics. Only the Tories could have started to rebuild the economy after the disastrous Labour mismanagement, but LibDems have knocked some of the sharp corners off the tory approach. Of course we’d like to do more but they’ve got 303 seats LibDems have 56, they’re the dog, we’re the tail.
  • signed 2013-12-19 23:01:41 +0000
    Climate change is happening and unless the whole World go all out to do what it can to stop climate change from demolishing the Planet, there will be no Earth before long. Go Green! ….. it is the only way!
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:59:19 +0000
    I like “green crap” because it is essential for a healthy ecosystem, quality of life and the long term well-being of humanity. In addition to tackling climate change, “green crap” includes protecting greenbelt countryside and wildlife habitat from development, not weakening our planning system in favour of greedy developers, not building roads and railways (including HS2) through SSSIs, AONBs and ancient woodland, not slaughtering badgers, not allowing neonic pesticides to harm bees and other pollinators, not threatening to re-legalise barbaric foxhunting, and so forth. Since forming the Coalition, the Liberal Democrats have been a bitter disappointment on most green issues, including those just outlined. Consequently, I will NOT be voting for the Liberal Democrats at the next election (unlike at the previous four general elections) – in power the Lib Dems have betrayed the environment and wildlife and shown they are not a ‘green party’. I feel that my vote for the Liberal Democrats at the last general election (specifically for the appalling anti-wildlife David Heath) was a wasted vote. Never again!
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:54:51 +0000
    We need more renewable energy we need to look after the planet for future generations.
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:35:53 +0000
    We must care for the planet or we will wreck it – so many people are trying to do that anyway. We MUST reduce pollution, stop melting the polar caps, stop destroying rainforests in favour of monoculture, etc etc
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:35:11 +0000
    Renewable energy is the future. We rely too much on power sources that are outside of Britain, will all too soon be exhausted or are destroying our environment. The government should be encouraging green energy, not sabotaging it. It’s gambling with our very existence to continue blindly with fossil fuels or build more nuclear power stations.
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:34:50 +0000
    Because it’s the new economy and it includes vital nuclear energy
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:29:32 +0000
    There is no alternative.

    I also think that nuclear power has no place in a green environmental policy. Three reasons come to mind. Firstly it is not carbon neatral. A great deal of carbon is used to build the power stations and to mine and refine the uranium. Secondly it is irresponsible to produce waiste that we do not have a safe long tern disposal policy. Thirdly it is not safe. Four reactors were affected by the recent tsunami in Japan. A long and detailed plan has been worked out for dealing with one of them, but the others are too contaminated to approach to check the damage.
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:20:43 +0000
    The environment is very important to everyone living on our planet. Not just those living in Britain but to people all over the world. As a father and grandfather I am concerned that if our generation fails to look after the environment – WHO WILL!

    You can bet on it that the Tories simply don’t care. They claim to care – they have a little green tree for their logo but the truth has a way of coming out! If “Green Crap” is what our Tory PM calls it, you will know we are in trouble. He simply makes a mockery of sensible environmental policies.

    What I want to see for the future is a world living in PEACE – if we do not love the world & its people I can see the next generation going down the pan!

    John Stephen

    Wyre Forest member
  • signed 2013-12-19 22:09:58 +0000
    Sustainable energy is the only way to the future. Poisoning the earth with greenhouse gases is killing people. Nuclear power doesn’t produce CO2 but has the unsolved problem of disposal of nuclear waste. Green all the way please

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